Legislature(2001 - 2002)

03/20/2002 01:33 PM Senate CRA

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                    
          SENATE COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE                                                                       
                         March 20, 2002                                                                                         
                            1:33 p.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator John Torgerson, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Alan Austerman                                                                                                          
Senator Pete Kelly                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Randy Phillips                                                                                                          
Senator Georgianna Lincoln                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                              
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 231                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to correctional facilities."                                                                                   
     MOVED CSSB 231 (CRA) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SB 231 - No previous action to record.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Jerry Burnett                                                                                                                   
Staff to Senator Lyda Green                                                                                                     
Alaska State Capitol, Room 125                                                                                                  
Juneau, AK  99801-1182                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced SB 231                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Linda Freed                                                                                                                     
Representative for City of Kodiak                                                                                               
P.O. Box 1397                                                                                                                   
Kodiak, AK 99615                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on SB 231                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Chief T. C. Kamai                                                                                                               
Police Chief                                                                                                                    
P.O. Box 1397                                                                                                                   
Kodiak, AK 99615                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on SB 231                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
George Avila                                                                                                                    
No address provided                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on  SB 231                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
John Mapes                                                                                                                      
No address provided                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on  SB 231                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mayor John Williams                                                                                                             
210 Fidalgo Suite 100                                                                                                           
Kenai, AK 99611                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on  SB 231                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Daniel Bates                                                                                                                    
No address provided                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on  SB 231                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Jim Lecrone                                                                                                                     
No address provided                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on  SB 231                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Don Valesko                                                                                                                     
No address provided                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on  SB 231                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Dennis Geary                                                                                                                    
No address provided                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on  SB 231                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Joseph Chavez                                                                                                                   
No address provided                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on  SB 231                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Colleen Soberay                                                                                                                 
No address provided                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on  SB 231                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Steve Sweet                                                                                                                     
No address provided                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on  SB 231                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Daniel Colang                                                                                                                   
No address provided                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on  SB 231                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Margaret Branson                                                                                                                
City of Seward Representative                                                                                                   
Box 271                                                                                                                         
Seward, AK 99664                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on  SB 231                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Charles Campbell                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
No address provided                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on SB 231                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
John Duffy                                                                                                                      
No address provided                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified on SB 231                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIRMAN  JOHN TORGERSON  called the Senate  Community &  Regional                                                            
Affairs  Committee meeting  to  order at  1:33  p.m. Present  were                                                              
Senators Austerman, Kelly and Chairman Torgerson.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
             SB 231-CORRECTIONAL FACILITY EXPANSION                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JERRY BURNETT, Staff  to Senator Lyda Green, introduced  SB 231 as                                                              
an  act that  provides  for  local construction  of  approximately                                                              
1,200 new beds in existing correctional  facilities throughout the                                                              
State of Alaska. The need for additional  beds is well recognized;                                                              
in 1998 the Legislature authorized  the construction of an 800 bed                                                              
privately constructed  and operated prison in Delta  Junction, but                                                              
it was never  built. Then in  2001 the Legislature passed  HB 149,                                                              
which authorized  construction  of a  minimum of  800 beds  on the                                                              
Kenai Peninsula but  they weren't built either. In  both cases the                                                              
local  community  turned down  the  opportunity  to construct  the                                                              
beds.  Because SB  231 provides  for the  expansion of  additional                                                              
beds at  existing facilities, it  should overcome the  question of                                                              
local  approval  since  the correctional  facilities  are  already                                                              
accepted as a part of the communities.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Currently there are  several hundred Alaskan prisoners  who are in                                                              
facilities outside  of Alaska  so the money  spent to  house those                                                              
inmates provides jobs for people  in Arizona not in Alaska. SB 231                                                              
would bring  those jobs  and some  of those  prisoners home.  Even                                                              
with the added 1,200 beds, a shortage  is likely to occur in a few                                                              
years  because  the Department  of  Corrections  reports that  the                                                              
prison population is growing by about 300 prisoners per year.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TORGERSON  asked whether  they had  received a  letter of                                                              
support from Fairbanks.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BURNETT replied  that they don't have a resolution  in support                                                              
of SB 231 from the Fairbanks North Star Borough at this time.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN   TORGERSON  asked   whether  they   are  considering   a                                                              
resolution.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BURNETT  replied it is  his understanding that  one resolution                                                              
had   failed  to   be   approved,   but  it   may   come  up   for                                                              
reconsideration.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TORGERSON  asked whether that  was the City  of Fairbanks                                                              
or the North Star Borough.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BURNETT said it was the City of Fairbanks.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TORGERSON then asked about the Kenai Borough.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BURNETT  replied there is no  support from the  Kenai Borough,                                                              
but the  City of  Kenai has come  out in support  of the  bill. He                                                              
called  attention to  the  proposed amendment  in  the packets  to                                                              
remove the Kenai Peninsula Borough and insert the City of Kenai.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  AUSTERMAN asked  whether during  the initial  discussions                                                              
they had  considered RFPs (request  for proposals) on  a statewide                                                              
basis.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BURNETT didn't  know  whether that  was  ever discussed.  The                                                              
first discussion  was with the Matanuska-Susitna  Borough and then                                                              
with the Department of Corrections  to determine where their needs                                                              
were. Those areas were then targeted.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TORGERSON called for teleconferenced  testimony to begin.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LINDA FREED,  City Manager for the  City of Kodiak,  testified via                                                              
teleconference, and  called attention to proposed  amendment #1 to                                                              
add four community jails to the bill.  They believe the facilities                                                              
originally identified  are important for the State  of Alaska, but                                                              
the  community  facilities  form  a  backbone,  a  network  and  a                                                              
partnership  with   those  facilities.  The  operation   of  their                                                              
facilities  and the other  community contract  jails in  the state                                                              
actually  save  the  state  money  because  they  reduce  prisoner                                                              
transportation as well as the associated  labor costs to transport                                                              
prisoners.  If adopted,  the amendment would  provide a  mechanism                                                              
for them  to expand and replace  their 60 year-old  jail facility.                                                              
They are  willing to commit local  dollars as well as  provide the                                                              
land for  the facility because they  hope to replace  their police                                                              
station, fire station  and other municipal facilities  at the same                                                              
time. They urge passage of SB 231 with proposed amendment #1.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TORGERSON  commented  other  communities  with  contract                                                              
jails would probably want to be added.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHIEF KAMAI echoed Ms. Freed's testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
GEORGE AVILA  testified via teleconference  in support of  SB 231.                                                              
It makes sense to add to existing facilities.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOHN MAPES testified via teleconference  from Kodiak in support of                                                              
SB 231 because it makes sense add  to existing facilities and keep                                                              
inmates in Alaska  near their homes, families,  support groups and                                                              
their heritage.  He didn't  want a prison  in the tsunami  area in                                                              
Whittier.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR  JOHN  WILLIAMS  from  the   City  of  Kenai  testified  via                                                              
teleconference in  support of SB  231 amended to include  the City                                                              
of Kenai so  they could bond and  fund the development  of beds at                                                              
the  Wildwood facility.  Several  years ago  the city  did have  a                                                              
community jail and  they were pleased to turn  that responsibility                                                              
over to the Wildwood Pre-trial Center when it opened.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The reason for  bringing attention to the distinction  between the                                                              
City of Kenai  and the Kenai Peninsula Borough is  outlined in the                                                              
letter from  their city  attorney. The  City of  Kenai is  a first                                                              
class home  rule charter city and  they have revenue  bond ability                                                              
for the development  of economic projects in and  around the city.                                                              
Previously they  have entered into partnering agreements  with the                                                              
state as evidenced by their city  courthouse. They are "able to go                                                              
the bonding on our own to help the state out on this matter."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN   TORGERSON  informed   Mayor   Williams  that   proposed                                                              
amendment #2 deletes  the Kenai Peninsula Borough  and inserts the                                                              
City of Kenai.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DANIEL  BATES, a  Ketchikan  correctional  officer, testified  via                                                              
teleconference  in support  of SB  231.  Many of  the concerns  in                                                              
Ketchikan  have already  been  addressed,  but expanding  existing                                                              
facilities  to  deal  with  overcrowding  is  in  everyone's  best                                                              
interest.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JIM  LECRONE,  a  retired  corrections   sergeant,  testified  via                                                              
teleconference  from Anchorage  in support  of SB  231. He  stated                                                              
that public  safety and  corrections are  a governmental  function                                                              
that should not be privatized. Several  small local facilities are                                                              
much preferable to one large regional one.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DON  VALESKO,  Business  Manager  of Public  Employees  Local  71,                                                              
testified via teleconference  in support of SB  231. The economics                                                              
of providing jobs across the state  is viewed favorably and adding                                                              
to an  existing facility  is cheaper  than starting from  scratch.                                                              
Expanding local  facilities brings  jobs to  the areas  and brings                                                              
prisoners home.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DENNIS   GEARY,  Alaska   Public   Employees  Association   (APEA)                                                              
Assistant  Business  Manager,  testified   via  teleconference  in                                                              
support of  SB 231.  He said  Mr. Valesko  stated the position  of                                                              
APEA very well.  The funding mechanism Senator Green  came up with                                                              
is an  excellent way to  find a solution  to a difficult  problem.                                                              
This  makes good  economic  sense for  local  communities and  the                                                              
State of Alaska.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JOSEPH  CHAVEZ, a  Department of  Corrections employee,  testified                                                              
via teleconference  from Bethel  in support  of SB 231.  Expanding                                                              
the  local facilities  will  increase  efficiency  and reduce  the                                                              
movement of prisoners. More staff  would be hired which would mean                                                              
economic  benefit to  the various  communities. Additionally,  the                                                              
staff would be  better trained than those in private  prisons. The                                                              
State  of Alaska  is mandated  to provide  for a  secure and  safe                                                              
public  and to  provide for  the  care, management  and reform  of                                                              
prisoners.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COLLEEN  SOBERAY, City  of  Bethel representative,  testified  via                                                              
teleconference  that the city  passed a  resolution in  support of                                                              
the bill. The Yukon Kuskokwim Correctional  Facility is located in                                                              
Bethel and expansion of that facility  would allow prisoners to be                                                              
closer  to  their  families  and   culture,  which  would  enhance                                                              
rehabilitation efforts.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The economic impact associated with  returning prisoners to Alaska                                                              
or incarcerating  prisoners in Alaska should be  shared statewide.                                                              
It makes sense that Alaskan residents  benefit from the money that                                                              
is currently spent in Arizona. The  Department of Corrections is a                                                              
responsive  agency   and  the  city   supports  the   creation  of                                                              
additional  professional jobs  for  the community.  Now more  than                                                              
ever,  all  options  need  to  be   explored  to  foster  economic                                                              
development and  to create  jobs in the  community. The  city also                                                              
supports the financing concept identified in the bill.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
STEVE  SWEET  testified  via  teleconference   from  Fairbanks  in                                                              
support of SB 231. Expansion of existing  facilities is preferable                                                              
to privatization.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DANIEL COLANG testified  via teleconference in support  of SB 231.                                                              
He has  been a corrections officer  for 25 years  and overcrowding                                                              
has been a problem  during his entire career.  The additional beds                                                              
are sorely needed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MARGARET  BRANSON testified  via teleconference  that the  City of                                                              
Seward  supports SB  231 and  other  bills that  are similar.  The                                                              
Spring Creek Facility was built with  the idea of expansion and it                                                              
now  has  a  very successful  youth  offender  program.  They  are                                                              
interested in expanding this facility  because the number of youth                                                              
offenders is rising.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
There was no additional teleconferenced testimony.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES  CAMPBELL  testified  that   he  is  a  past  Director  of                                                              
Corrections  in  Alaska  and Compliance  Monitor  for  the  Cleary                                                              
facility. The  regional approach  would allow several  projects to                                                              
be started simultaneously. He was  very much in favor of expanding                                                              
existing  facilities and  avoiding  the construction  of a  single                                                              
large  prison.  Correctional  programs   work  better  in  smaller                                                              
facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ninety five percent  of the inmates in Alaska  prisons will return                                                              
to the community so neglecting measures  that would help offenders                                                              
become more responsible citizens  does not make sense economically                                                              
or otherwise.  Alcohol and drug programs  need to be  expanded and                                                              
prison  industries should  be supported  because  idleness is  the                                                              
bane of  good corrections.  Each of the  facilities that  would be                                                              
expanded  has community  volunteer  programs and  those should  be                                                              
encouraged.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN DUFFY,  Matanuska-Susitna Borough  Manager spoke in  favor of                                                              
SB 231. Rather  than reiterate all the testimony  that had already                                                              
been given, he  simply stated they support the  regional approach,                                                              
which  spreads  the  economic  impact  throughout  the  state  and                                                              
addresses many community needs for expansions.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MARGO KNUTH  from the Department  of Corrections  reminded members                                                              
of  the Governor's  bills  SB  336 and  HB  497 for  expansion  of                                                              
corrections   facilities.  The   administration  appreciates   the                                                              
regional  approach  suggested  by  Senator Green's  bill  and  the                                                              
facilities that  are listed  are in the  right places and  ask for                                                              
the right number of beds. Including  the four community jails that                                                              
are in  the Governor's bill seems  timely and appropriate.  All 15                                                              
community jails  in the state are  looking for resources,  but the                                                              
four mentioned in this bill are the  ones that are the most highly                                                              
utilized. Because  of the current budget concerns,  it makes sense                                                              
to include those four jails based on the utilization rates.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
She pointed  out a small typographical  error on page 1,  line 12.                                                              
The  word "facility"  should be  changed  to "facilities"  because                                                              
within  the   Matanuska-Susitna  Borough   there  is   the  Palmer                                                              
Correctional  Facility, the  Mat-Su Jail  and the Point  MacKenzie                                                              
Farm. This bill is to authorize expansion  of all those facilities                                                              
There are differences in the financing  mechanisms between Senator                                                              
Green's  bill and  the Governor's  bill but  it might  be best  to                                                              
consider those issues in the Finance Committee.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TORGERSON announced they  had proposed amendments #1, #2,                                                              
and technical amendment #3 to consider.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR AUSTERMAN made a motion to  adopt amendment #1. On page 2,                                                              
line  6 it  added  Dillingham, Kodiak,  Kotzebue  and North  Slope                                                              
Borough to the list for new or expanded correctional facilities.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, amendment #1 was adopted.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR AUSTERMAN made a motion to adopt amendment #2, which                                                                    
changed page 2, line 5 to delete the Kenai Peninsula Borough and                                                                
add the City of Kenai.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, amendment #2 was adopted.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR AUSTERMAN made a motion to adopt technical amendment #3                                                                 
to delete "facility" and insert "facilities" on page 1, line 12.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, amendment #3 was adopted.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR AUSTERMAN made a motion to move SB 231 and attached                                                                     
fiscal note from committee with individual recommendations.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, SB 231 moved from committee.                                                                          
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, Chairman                                                                  
Torgerson adjourned the meeting at 2:05 p.m.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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